It’s not often BBC Radio 1 come through the Scrum V desk looking for help lining up a guest.
But at his peak, Leigh Halfpenny was that player.
Second in BBC Sports Personality of the Year in 2013 behind Andy Murray, a British and Irish Lion, and with an appeal that stretched well beyond the traditional image of a rugby player, youthful, almost boyband in look, he had a reach few in the game ever manage.
He would have baulked at the idea.
No ego. No noise. Just a quiet, consistent excellence that defined his career. Now fittingly, a quiet confirmation that he will retire at the end of the season.
Because this is more than just another retirement.
When Halfpenny was best in the world
Back in 2008, a Wales Under-20s side went deep into the Junior World Championship and hinted at what was coming. Sam Warburton, Justin Tipuric, Dan Biggar, Rhys Webb, Jonathan Davies and Halfpenny were in that side.
Grand Slams. Titles. World Cup semi-finals. For a time, the best team in the world.
One by one, they’ve gone. Halfpenny is the last.
The numbers are strong. Some 101 caps, 801 points, third behind Neil Jenkins and Stephen Jones. But they don’t quite explain him.
He was unassuming. Almost bashful. The last person looking for credit.
Yet the one everyone trusted.
Nobody has a bad word to say about him. In this game, that’s rare.
Warren Gatland called him the best defensive full-back the game has seen. At his peak, especially with the British & Irish Lions in 2013, he was probably the best full-back. Full stop.
Attention to detail was what set Halfpenny apart
What set him apart was the work.
A perfectionist. Obsessive about detail. As committed to his craft as anyone in the professional era.
That started early. Kicking balls for hours in Gorseinon and never really changed.
Injuries disrupted his career, sometimes cruelly. A missed World Cup, long absences, even his 100th cap ending in a serious knee injury.
But he got everything out of his body.
If Antoine Dupont is the game’s natural talent – the Lionel Messi or Roger Federer – Halfpenny was the other side of it.
More Cristiano Ronaldo or Rafael Nadal. Not in build, but in method, everything earned, in a frame many thought too small for this level.
Because when he played, he delivered. Technically excellent. Positionally outstanding. Ice-cold from the kicking tee.
End of a golden era for Welsh rugby
His club career took him from Cardiff to Toulon, the Scarlets, New Zealand and Harlequins, with European success along the way. But Wales always felt like the centre of it.
Players like this, so tied to the detail of the game, usually leave something behind.
Which is why this one feels like more than just another retirement.
With George North and Liam Williams also stepping away, this is the end of a chapter. A generation that defined an era.
He’d hate this bit, of course. the focus on him rather than the people who helped him along the way.
And Halfpenny, quietly, is the last one out.
No fuss. Just a career built on doing everything properly. And doing it better, more consistently, than almost anyone else.